Pinch of salt time because retail listings are never the firmest of facts, but Amazon currently lists a December 29 2017 release date for God of War.

Recently, we were wondering what we'd see of God of War at E3? Or if there might be a demo, now we're considering playing the whole game by the end of the year.

It's not completely outside the realms of possibility. Conferences increasingly like to drop bombshells to catch media attention and 'play God of War this year' would certainly get more than a few headlines.

The only thing off here is that December 29 is a very late release date - most publishers like to hit November at the very latest to max out Christmas sales. A few days after makes no sense. Unless Sony's hoping to capitalise on Easter, which can see some games do really well through lack of competition. The other, more worrying possibility is this date is basically next year and might be a placeholder trying to catch the best of both worlds - 2017 for the hopeful, 2018 for the realists.

Whatever happens we are defintely long overdue some new God of War info and E3 is the next big gaming date on the calendar. Odds are whatever we see next will answer some big questions, such as how did Kratos get to be a viking? Or a father? There's also a lot more to be said about the new combat so I wouldn't be surprised if we see a big boss battle set piece next.

Here's what else we know.

God of War release date could be December 29 2017

There's no firm release date yet, just a retail listing from Amazon that it will be out in December 29 2017.

God of War trailer involves less rage than you'd expect

The beautiful Norse world is shown off in all its glory in the 9-minute long trailer previewed at 2016's E3. The forest floor is covered in snow, elks jump out from behind towering trees, and the ice glistens beneath Kratos' feet. These graphics would steal show were it not for the fact that the Spartan is no longer alone. Running alongside him is his son (who has yet to be named), who Kratos is beginning to teach the art of combat and who also happens to be beautifully animated. Take a look at the trailer to see him for yourself!

God of War gameplay brings you closer to Kratos (literally)

The basic 'getting angry and killing things' idea is still in place but this time with a tight, more personal third person camera. The idea is to use the environment to do more of the story telling - at E3 Sony showed off some gorgeous locations full of tiny little details that would have been missed in the older, more distant view.

You can still upgrade abilities, although via a XP-based system this time. There are also resources to collect although what you do with these has yet to be explained.

God of War story features the same Kratos trying to change his ways

Quite how Kratos is now living in viking times isn't clear but it is the same guy. That's made clear by his ability to deploy his Spartan rage when he wants to pound monster heads (and Sony specifically confirming it's him). However, this is a vastly different man now. He's still a very angry human but he's trying to change his ways as he blames his rage for all his past misfortunes. And that's partly because he's a father now. Which brings us on to...

Who is Kratos' son in God of War?

Until recently Kratos’ son was only referred to as ‘Boy’ and Sony had been very cagey about giving too much away. There were also some rumours about tattoos seen in the reveal trailer that were dismissed very quickly. However, metadata from the game's soundtrack has finally identified the little godling.

The track data for 'God Of War E3 2016 Overture Live' includes the line 'An introduction to Kratos and Atreus'. Creative director Cory Barlog has since confirmed this is the son's name.

So who was Atreus? Well he was the son of Pelops and the grandson of Zeus, which would still work with Kratos as his dad. Historically though, Atreus was banished after murdering a brother and eventually became king of Mycenae in Greece. That ties in less well with being a child in viking times but then God Of War has alway played a little fast and loose with canon.

We defintely know how he functions in the game at least. While accompanying Kratos he can fight alongside pops, with the player using a dedicated button to make him fire arrows at whoever you’re attacking. You always actually play as Kratos though, apart from small interactive moments where you can direct the son and use that to advance his skills.

Where is God of War set now?

Sony keep referring to the new setting as just 'Norse Mythology'. There’s not much clue yet as to the actual location or time period. Given that the original games played pretty loosely with Greek canon it’s no surprise that this is probably not going to be an exercise in scholarly history - more a mash up of just about every cool thing you can imagine from the lore.

How has God Of War's combat changed?

Gone are those iconic chained Blades of Athena, and instead Kratos now has an axe. Combat’s moved to the trigger buttons and lets you juggle hacking blows and fists, while throwing and recalling the axe as a projectile. There’s a hint of magic involved, with some blue runes inflicting ice damage, suggesting we might see some other elemental effects.

Kratos still has his Spartan Rage, as we mentioned, which can be used to destroy opponents in a savage flurry of blows - so far we’ve seen him destroy a 20 foot troll with his bare hands with it. He also gets some help from the boy, who can loose electric arrows on command for a little fire support.

Does the new God of War still have you killing gods and monsters?

So far Sony has only really said 'What do you think?' when asked about fighting gods. So, yes. In terms of definite enemies, we know that Draugr are in, as a sort of grunt-level enemy. And there’s at least one troll behaving very much like the old game’s cyclops. Plus there's a dragon seen flying around (again, Sony won’t say if Kratos will fight one, so another yes there).

However, there are a few clues hidden in the gameplay reveal, such as a mystery flying enemy and a suspiciously moving patch of ground that might well be a giant snake. You can check all that out below...

Who's making the new God of War?

Well, Sony Santa Monica obviously. But! Cory Barlog is directing the new game. He worked on the first installment in the series and directed the second one (considered the best by many people). Despite all the changes to the camera, gameplay and setting, this is one of the men that made Kratos so no one gets that character more.